{"id":32844,"date":"2026-10-05T15:52:38","date_gmt":"2026-10-05T15:52:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/?p=32844"},"modified":"2026-10-05T15:52:38","modified_gmt":"2026-10-05T15:52:38","slug":"in-2019-alibaba-group-co-founder-jack-ma-told-elon-musk-humans-will-always-be-smarter-than-machines-what-tesla-ceo-said","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/?p=32844","title":{"rendered":"In 2019, Alibaba Group co-founder Jack Ma told Elon Musk, &#8216;Humans will always be smarter than machines&#8217;: What Tesla CEO said"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<div class=\"e9jwa\">\n<div class=\"vdo_embedd\">\n<div class=\"GfdvZ\">\n<section class=\"_bIDB  clearfix id-r-component leadmedia undefined undefined  E9tg9 \" style=\"top:0px\">\n<div class=\"_bIDB\" data-ua-type=\"1\" onclick=\"stpPgtnAndPrvntDefault(event)\">\n<div class=\"ypVvZ\">\n<div class=\"WGttI\"><img src=\"https:\/\/static.toiimg.com\/thumb\/msid-134708673,imgsize-45556,width-400,height-225,resizemode-4\/elon-musk-and-jack-ma.jpg\" alt=\"In 2019, Alibaba Group co-founder Jack Ma told Elon Musk, 'Humans will always be smarter than machines': What Tesla CEO said\" decoding=\"async\" fetchpriority=\"high\"\/><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/section>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>At a time when there is an escalating debate over AI safety and the power of modern frontier models, an old video of an exchange between <a href=\"https:\/\/timesofindia.indiatimes.com\/topic\/elon-musk\" styleobj=\"[object Object]\" class=\"\" commonstate=\"[object Object]\" frmappuse=\"1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Elon Musk<\/a> and Alibaba co-founder Jack Ma has surfaced online. The video, reposted by Musk, captures Ma doubling down on human exceptionalism, arguing that machines will never outsmart the species that invented them.<span class=\"id-r-component br\" data-pos=\"4\"\/>\u201cComputers may be very clever, but human beings are much smarter. We invented the computer. I&#8217;ve never seen a computer invent a human being,\u201d Ma argued during their conversation at an event in Shanghai in 2019. Ma\u2019s take was rooted in the traditional view of computing: machines are ultimately instruments. While hardware can compute equations faster and store far more data, people retain qualities that silicon cannot replicate, including life experience, nuanced judgment, and wisdom.<span class=\"id-r-component br\" data-pos=\"8\"\/><\/p>\n<p><h2>Ma says computer is one of clever tools humans created<\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<p>Ma, however, acknowledged that AI can beat humans at games like chess and Go but said that computers would remain one of several clever tools that humans have developed.<span class=\"id-r-component br\" data-pos=\"11\"\/>\u201cDon&#8217;t worry about the machines. For sure, we should understand one thing: that man can never make another man. A computer is a computer. A computer is just a toy. Man cannot even make a mosquito. So, we should have a confidence. Computers only have chips, men have the heart. It&#8217;s the heart where the wisdom comes from,\u201d he said.<span class=\"id-r-component br\" data-pos=\"16\"\/>He concluded that \u201cmy view is that [a] computer may be clever, but human beings are much smarter\u201d.<span class=\"id-r-component br\" data-pos=\"18\"\/>Musk dismissed the premise immediately, posing a direct challenge: \u201cWhat would be an example of something that humans are better than a computer at?\u201d<span class=\"id-r-component br\" data-pos=\"20\"\/>\u201cIt&#8217;s going to get to the point where [AI] just can completely simulate a person in every way possible, like many people simultaneously. In fact, there&#8217;s a strong argument, we&#8217;re in the simulation right now,&#8221; he added.<\/div>\n<p><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/timesofindia.indiatimes.com\/technology\/tech-news\/in-2019-alibaba-group-co-founder-jack-ma-told-elon-musk-humans-will-always-be-smarter-than-machines-what-tesla-ceo-said\/articleshow\/134708604.cms\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>At a time when there is an escalating debate over AI safety and the power of modern frontier models, an old video of an exchange between Elon Musk and Alibaba co-founder Jack Ma has surfaced online. The video, reposted by Musk, captures Ma doubling down on human exceptionalism, arguing that machines will never outsmart the [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":32845,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[31],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-32844","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-31"],"magazineBlocksPostFeaturedMedia":{"thumbnail":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/elon-musk-and-jack-ma.jpg","medium":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/elon-musk-and-jack-ma.jpg","medium_large":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/elon-musk-and-jack-ma.jpg","large":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/elon-musk-and-jack-ma.jpg","1536x1536":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/elon-musk-and-jack-ma.jpg","2048x2048":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/elon-musk-and-jack-ma.jpg","blogsy-small":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/elon-musk-and-jack-ma.jpg","blogsy-small-tall":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/elon-musk-and-jack-ma.jpg","blogsy-small-square":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/elon-musk-and-jack-ma.jpg","blogsy-small-masonry":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/elon-musk-and-jack-ma.jpg","blogsy-medium":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/elon-musk-and-jack-ma.jpg","blogsy-medium-masonry":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/elon-musk-and-jack-ma.jpg","blogsy-large":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/elon-musk-and-jack-ma.jpg","blogsy-wide":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/elon-musk-and-jack-ma.jpg"},"magazineBlocksPostAuthor":{"name":"admin","avatar":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/8709732a479614e7a8aa24d3eb1b239f30dc6d90c61464ed495001e7a469d856?s=96&d=mm&r=g"},"magazineBlocksPostCommentsNumber":"0","magazineBlocksPostExcerpt":"At a time when there is an escalating debate over AI safety and the power of modern frontier models, an old video of an exchange between Elon Musk and Alibaba co-founder Jack Ma has surfaced online. The video, reposted by Musk, captures Ma doubling down on human exceptionalism, arguing that machines will never outsmart the [&hellip;]","magazineBlocksPostCategories":["\u0b26\u0b47\u0b36 \u0b2c\u0b3f\u0b26\u0b47\u0b36"],"magazineBlocksPostViewCount":2,"magazineBlocksPostReadTime":2,"magazine_blocks_featured_image_url":{"full":["https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/elon-musk-and-jack-ma.jpg",400,225,false],"medium":["https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/elon-musk-and-jack-ma.jpg",300,169,false],"thumbnail":["https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/elon-musk-and-jack-ma.jpg",150,84,false]},"magazine_blocks_author":{"display_name":"admin","author_link":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/author\/admin"},"magazine_blocks_comment":0,"magazine_blocks_author_image":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/8709732a479614e7a8aa24d3eb1b239f30dc6d90c61464ed495001e7a469d856?s=96&d=mm&r=g","magazine_blocks_category":"<a href=\"#\" class=\"category-link category-link-31\">\u0b26\u0b47\u0b36 \u0b2c\u0b3f\u0b26\u0b47\u0b36<\/a>","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32844","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=32844"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32844\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/32845"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=32844"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=32844"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=32844"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}