{"id":27633,"date":"2026-09-23T06:17:14","date_gmt":"2026-09-23T06:17:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/?p=27633"},"modified":"2026-09-23T06:17:14","modified_gmt":"2026-09-23T06:17:14","slug":"marc-benioff-says-because-of-microsoft-salesforce-could-not-invest-in-openai-salesforce-ceo-says-i-knew-sam-altman-very-well-i-was-like","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/?p=27633","title":{"rendered":"Marc Benioff says because of Microsoft, Salesforce could not invest in OpenAI; Salesforce CEO says: I knew Sam Altman very well, I was like&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<div class=\"e9jwa\">\n<div class=\"vdo_embedd\">\n<div class=\"GfdvZ\">\n<section class=\"_bIDB  clearfix id-r-component leadmedia undefined undefined  E9tg9 \" style=\"top:0px\">\n<div class=\"_bIDB\" data-ua-type=\"1\" onclick=\"stpPgtnAndPrvntDefault(event)\">\n<div class=\"ypVvZ\">\n<div class=\"WGttI\"><img src=\"https:\/\/static.toiimg.com\/thumb\/msid-134426725,imgsize-136596,width-400,height-225,resizemode-4\/microsoft-kept-salesforce-out-of-openai.jpg\" alt=\"Marc Benioff says because of Microsoft, Salesforce could not invest in OpenAI; Salesforce CEO says: I knew Sam Altman very well, I was like...\" title=\"Microsoft kept Salesforce out of OpenAI\" decoding=\"async\" fetchpriority=\"high\"\/><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Ta7d_ img_cptn\"><span title=\"Microsoft kept Salesforce out of OpenAI\">Microsoft kept Salesforce out of OpenAI<\/span><\/div>\n<\/section>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff wanted a stake in OpenAI long before most of the tech industry was chasing one. <a href=\"https:\/\/timesofindia.indiatimes.com\/topic\/sam-altman\" styleobj=\"[object Object]\" class=\"\" commonstate=\"[object Object]\" frmappuse=\"1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Sam Altman<\/a> turned him down, and Microsoft was the reason. Speaking on Alex Heath&#8217;s Sources podcast, in an episode published on Tuesday, Benioff said OpenAI&#8217;s ties to Microsoft, a direct rival to Salesforce in enterprise software, kept the door shut.<span class=\"id-r-component br\" data-pos=\"4\"\/>So Salesforce went to OpenAI&#8217;s biggest rival instead. That fallback, Anthropic, is now valued at $965 billion and preparing for a public listing. Benioff believes the bet could earn Salesforce &#8220;not just billions but maybe tens of billions of dollars.&#8221;<span class=\"id-r-component br\" data-pos=\"6\"\/><\/p>\n<p><h2><b>Microsoft&#8217;s 27% OpenAI stake kept Salesforce off the cap table<\/b><\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I knew Sam Altman very well,&#8221; Benioff said on the Sources podcast. &#8220;I was like, &#8216;Hey, I&#8217;d really like to be investing now in the company.'&#8221; According to Benioff, Altman replied that the Microsoft relationship meant Salesforce was not allowed to invest.<span class=\"id-r-component br\" data-pos=\"11\"\/>On paper, the block made sense. Microsoft owns roughly 27% of OpenAI, uses its models in products that compete with Salesforce&#8217;s, and sells OpenAI access through Azure. The two companies have reworked their deal twice since October 2025. The latest revision, in April, made Microsoft&#8217;s licence to OpenAI technology non-exclusive and allowed OpenAI to serve customers on other clouds.<span class=\"id-r-component br\" data-pos=\"13\"\/>Benioff did not claim foresight. &#8220;We felt like, whoa, we can&#8217;t go here, we&#8217;re going to have to go everywhere else,&#8221; he told Heath, adding that it was &#8220;not because we were so smart.&#8221;<span class=\"id-r-component br\" data-pos=\"16\"\/>&#8220;Everywhere else&#8221; meant a wide spread of AI startups, including Hugging Face.<span class=\"id-r-component br\" data-pos=\"18\"\/><\/p>\n<p><h2><b>Salesforce&#8217;s $50 million Anthropic investment from 2023 is now worth around $5 billion<\/b><\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<p>Salesforce first joined an Anthropic funding round in early 2023 with about $50 million and kept investing in later rounds. By June this year, that stake was reportedly worth around $5 billion, a figure calculated after Anthropic&#8217;s $65 billion raise. Salesforce has never disclosed exactly how much of the Claude maker it owns.<span class=\"id-r-component br\" data-pos=\"21\"\/>An Anthropic IPO would put a public price on that holding and eventually give Salesforce a way to sell shares. <!-- -->Anthropic has confidentially filed draft paperwork with regulators, with Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs reportedly leading the offering. Altman, meanwhile, has said OpenAI will not go public in 2026.<span class=\"id-r-component br\" data-pos=\"25\"\/><\/p>\n<p><h2><b>Anthropic&#8217;s Claude now runs Salesforce&#8217;s Slack and Agentforce<\/b><\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s because we have been pushed so close with Anthropic,&#8221; Benioff said on the podcast, explaining why he expects such large returns.<span class=\"id-r-component br\" data-pos=\"28\"\/>The investment has become a working partnership. Claude is the default model across Slack and runs Slackbot, which Salesforce says has saved its employees 8.1 million hours of work on an annualised basis. <!-- -->In August, the two companies launched Claudeforce, which brings Salesforce data into Claude through a plugin with 37 prebuilt sales skills, from meeting prep to pipeline reviews. Claude also serves as a reasoning model inside Agentforce.<span class=\"id-r-component br\" data-pos=\"33\"\/>Money moves the other way too. In May, Benioff said Salesforce would likely spend $300 million on Anthropic tokens this year, much of it on coding.<span class=\"id-r-component br\" data-pos=\"35\"\/><\/p>\n<p><h2><b>Benioff lost out on OpenAI but never cut ties with it<\/b><\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<p>The Anthropic tie-up has not made Salesforce a one-model company. <!-- -->Both Dario Amodei and Altman appeared at Dreamforce 2026 in San Francisco last week, and Salesforce is adding OpenAI capabilities to Missionforce, its AI agent platform for government customers.<span class=\"id-r-component br\" data-pos=\"40\"\/>Benioff used the same stage to call the so-called SaaSpocalypse &#8220;crazy nonsense&#8221; and to forecast that Salesforce would cross $50 billion in annual revenue next year.<span class=\"id-r-component br\" data-pos=\"42\"\/>Three years after Altman said no, Salesforce holds an early stake in one of the world&#8217;s most valuable AI companies and still has OpenAI in the room. For a company that was shut out, it ended up with a seat at both tables.<\/div>\n<p><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/timesofindia.indiatimes.com\/technology\/tech-news\/marc-benioff-says-because-of-microsoft-salesforce-could-not-invest-in-openai-salesforce-ceo-says-i-knew-sam-altman-very-well-i-was-like-\/articleshow\/134426696.cms\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Microsoft kept Salesforce out of OpenAI Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff wanted a stake in OpenAI long before most of the tech industry was chasing one. Sam Altman turned him down, and Microsoft was the reason. Speaking on Alex Heath&#8217;s Sources podcast, in an episode published on Tuesday, Benioff said OpenAI&#8217;s ties to Microsoft, a direct [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":27634,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[31],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-27633","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-31"],"magazineBlocksPostFeaturedMedia":{"thumbnail":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/microsoft-kept-salesforce-out-of-openai.jpg","medium":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/microsoft-kept-salesforce-out-of-openai.jpg","medium_large":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/microsoft-kept-salesforce-out-of-openai.jpg","large":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/microsoft-kept-salesforce-out-of-openai.jpg","1536x1536":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/microsoft-kept-salesforce-out-of-openai.jpg","2048x2048":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/microsoft-kept-salesforce-out-of-openai.jpg","blogsy-small":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/microsoft-kept-salesforce-out-of-openai.jpg","blogsy-small-tall":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/microsoft-kept-salesforce-out-of-openai.jpg","blogsy-small-square":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/microsoft-kept-salesforce-out-of-openai.jpg","blogsy-small-masonry":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/microsoft-kept-salesforce-out-of-openai.jpg","blogsy-medium":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/microsoft-kept-salesforce-out-of-openai.jpg","blogsy-medium-masonry":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/microsoft-kept-salesforce-out-of-openai.jpg","blogsy-large":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/microsoft-kept-salesforce-out-of-openai.jpg","blogsy-wide":"https:\/\/koshalsambada.in\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/microsoft-kept-salesforce-out-of-openai.jpg"},"magazineBlocksPostAuthor":{"name":"admin","avatar":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/8709732a479614e7a8aa24d3eb1b239f30dc6d90c61464ed495001e7a469d856?s=96&d=mm&r=g"},"magazineBlocksPostCommentsNumber":"0","magazineBlocksPostExcerpt":"Microsoft kept Salesforce out of OpenAI Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff wanted a stake in OpenAI long before most of the tech industry was chasing one. 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